Golf.com Your life, well played. en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8 https://golf.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/cropped-favicon-512x512-1-32x32.png etiquetteist Archives - Golf 32 32 https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15555265 Fri, 27 Dec 2024 19:03:06 +0000 <![CDATA[I lost a bet to a sandbagger. Did I have to pay? The Etiquetteist weighs in]]> Some golfers cheat. But a wager is a wager. And even if the match was unfair from the start, you still have to live up to your word.

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Some golfers cheat. But a wager is a wager. And even if the match was unfair from the start, you still have to live up to your word.

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Aaron from San Diego writes: Last week, I got paired with a single at my local course. As we were limbering up by the 1st tee, he asked if I wanted to play a friendly match. He said he was “about a 7,” which is my handicap index, so I figured, OK. A few holes in, though, it was pretty clear this guy was much better than he said he was. He bombed it about 280 off the tee. I don’t think he missed a fairway, and he could putt. Bottom line: I got crushed. Our match wasn’t all that big — $10 a side — but this guy had obviously lied to me. I paid him, but could I have gotten away with calling off the bet?

Dear Aaron:

Ah, golf, the great game of honor. Except when it isn’t. Never mind what we’re often told. There is nothing inherently “honorable” about propping a ball on a peg in the ground. Enjoying a great pastime does not in itself make you an honest person. We golfers are just people. And while most of us follow the rules, some of us don’t. Any claims to the contrary — that playing the game is somehow proof of noble character — makes the Etiquetteist’s eyes roll back involuntarily in his head.

Bernie Madoff was a golfer. ‘Nuff said.

How to spot a hustler is another matter. One school of thought holds that you should never wager against a stranger with a worn-out spot on the toe of his or her trail shoe, a telltale sign, the thinking goes, of a pro-caliber move. The Etiquetteist has a simpler rule: never bet against anyone named Lee Trevino, or anyone who says that they’re “about a 7.”

Really, though, there’s know way of knowing.

All we can do is play the game with integrity and hope that others do the same.

Which brings us to your question. Based on your description, it sounds like you got sandbagged, though we can’t be certain. What we can say for sure is that a bet is a bet. No one forced you to make it. Reneging on it would have put you in the wrong. As much it as it must have stung to open your wallet to a guy who likely fooled you, it would have cost you more not to pay him. You would have broken your word, and your word is surely worth more than $30. Chalk it up to a (relatively) inexpensive lesson learned.

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https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15551675 Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:17:42 +0000 <![CDATA[Pro says high-handicappers could play faster doing this. Is it a good idea?]]> One PGA Tour player said high-handicappers could speed up play by being more prepared for poor shots while on tee boxes, but is he right?

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Alex from Arlington, Va. writes: Ben An caused a stir on social media this week by asking why high-handicappers don’t bring an extra ball to the tee, so they don’t have to waste time going back to the cart to get another when they pump the first one out of bounds. What’s your take? Should hacks like me carry extra ammo around in our pockets to help keep up the pace?

Dear Alex:

Last the Etiquetteist checked, Ben An plays on the PGA Tour, a circuit whose competitors have for decades been the poster children for slow play, routinely taking five-plus hours to get around in threesomes while role-modeling terrible pace habits that have inevitably filtered down into the recreational game. Rather than singling out every-day chops, An might consider asking something along the lines of, Why does Patrick Cantlay shuffle-step 16 times before stroking a 2-foot putt?

But since that’s not the question he — or you — have posed, let’s get to it.

There’s little doubt that most of us, low and high-handicappers alike, could take steps to improve our pace. We could be ready to hit more often. We could take fewer practice swings. We could tell fewer bad jokes before striking our tee shots. Carrying an extra ball around might also shave a few seconds here and there. But it should not be a requirement. Not for anyone.

Golf is already 90 percent mental. Why add to the psychological burden? Stepping to the tee with an extra ball in one’s pocket is essentially an act of resignation, and something of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Consciously or subconsciously, you are signaling to yourself — and the world — that you expect to duck-hook your first one into the trees. And so you do. No golfer, regardless of handicap, should be forced to suffer through such a sad and self-destructive ritual.

The good news is, it’s easy to avoid. As part of its modernization of the Rules of Golf, the USGA has implemented a local rule — meant mostly for recreational play — that allows for a stroke-and-distance option. Instead of teeing up another ball, just head out to the point where you think your first shot went missing, find the nearest fairway edge, drop and play on with a two-stroke penalty. No need to go back to your cart to reload.

Better yet, if you’re healthy enough to do it, don’t take a cart. Walk and carry, so that if you decide to reload, a second ball is always within easy reach. Do it quickly enough, and no one will likely notice. Unless you do it on every tee. In which case, you might be better off spending five-plus hours on the practice range instead.

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https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15549313 Mon, 23 Sep 2024 20:26:29 +0000 <![CDATA[Can A.I. help golfers with golf etiquette? We found out]]> Decades after the rise of Iron Byron, robots don't just play golf anymore. They've got into talking about golf, too.

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Decades after the rise of Iron Byron, robots don't just play golf anymore. They've got into talking about golf, too.

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Techno-alarmists keep insisting that robots are going to make us all redundant. Sounds scary. But The Etiquetteist isn’t worried about his job. 

Smart as they may be, machines lack emotional intelligence. They can’t read people, or sort through the complexities of personal relationships, which makes them useless when it comes to laying ground rules for on-course comportment.

Right? To test the hypothesis, The Etiquetteist turned to that A.I. know-it-all, ChatGPT, for golf etiquette advice.

The Etiquetteist: Last week, I caught my playing partner cheating. What’s should I have done?

ChatGPT: Address it calmly. If you felt comfortable, bringing it up in the moment might have been helpful. A calm, direct approach can lead to a more productive conversation.

T.E.: Calm? I was livid!

ChatGPT: That makes total sense! It’s completely normal to feel livid when you catch someone cheating — especially in a game where integrity matters. If you find yourself in a similar situation again, you might consider taking a breath.

T.E.: You mean, I shouldn’t have snapped his putter and thrown his ball into the lake?

ChatGPT: Haha, I guess that’s one way to make your point! But yeah, snapping his putter and tossing his ball into the lake might be a bit over the top. 😅

T.E.: I don’t like that you’re responding to me with childish emojis. It feels like you’re making light of the situation.

ChatGPT: I understand, and I apologize if it seemed like I was making light of the situation. Cheating in a game like golf, especially with a friend, can feel like a serious betrayal, and your reaction — though intense — came from a place of genuine frustration.

T.E.: You know I was just messing with you, right?

ChatGPT: Ah, got it! You had me there for a second. Well played! Now that we’re on the same page, did the snapping-the-putter part actually happen, or was that just for effect?

T.E.: It really happened. Do I have to buy him a new one?

ChatGPT: Since you actually snapped his putter, it would be the right thing to at least offer to replace it. It doesn’t mean you’re excusing the cheating — it just shows that you’re taking responsibility for your part of the incident. You could say something like, “I still stand by how upset I was about the cheating, but I overreacted by breaking your putter. Let me replace it.” Have you talked to him about the situation since then?

T.E.: Only briefly. When I snapped his putter, the broken shaft fell and left a mark in the green, at which point we had an argument over who should repair it. I told him it was his job. He disagreed.

ChatGPT: That sounds like quite the scene. Technically, it’s your responsibility to repair any damage you caused to the course, including the mark left on the green. While his cheating sparked the situation, the physical damage falls on you.

T.E.: The “scene” we made also slowed down play, which I realize is a problem. How long should it take to play 18?

GhatGPT: The ideal time to play 18 holes of golf generally falls between 4 and 4.5 hours for a group of four players. However, the pace can vary based on factors like course layout, difficulty, number of players, and how busy the course is. On a less crowded course or for experienced players, it might be closer to 3.5 hours, while slower rounds could take up to 5 hours.

T.E: Slow golf drives me crazy. How do you get a sluggish playing partner to pick up the pace?

GhatGPT: Dealing with a slow-playing partner can be tricky, especially if you want to maintain a positive atmosphere while keeping the game moving. Some ways to handle it tactfully include leading by example and encouraging ready golf.

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T.E.: You’d think a caddie might help improve pace as well. But in my experience, taking a caddie often slows things down, as it leads to long discussions before every shot with players who can’t execute very precisely anyway.

GhatGPT: You’re absolutely right. Caddies can be a double-edged sword. While a good caddie can speed things up by providing quick advice, finding balls and keep the player organized, in some cases they unintentionally slow the game down. For may amateur golfers, having a caddie might encourage overthinking rather than simplifying decisions.

T.E.: Caddies are like golfers, I guess. There are good ones and bad ones. Given all the variance, what do you suggest for a caddie tip?

GhatGPT: Tipping a caddie typically depends on the type of service provided, the course and local customs. But here are some general guidelines. $40 to $60 for an 18-hole round is considered a standard tip for a caddie carrying one bag. If you’re at a high-end or prestigious course, tips can go up to $80 to $100 or more.

T.E.: I should have gone into caddying instead of journalism.

ChatGPT: Caddying can definitely be lucrative, especially at top courses or for well-heeled golfers! That said, journalism has it own rewards, like shaping public discourse, telling important stories and even influencing change. Plus, fewer early morning spent lugging heavy bags around!

T.E.: Mostly what I’m carrying around now is the memory of my playing partner, cheating on the course.

ChatGPT: Have you considered how you’d handle things if you ever find yourself in a similar situation again?

T.E.: I was thinking I’d snap his driver, too.

ChatGPT: Snapping one club was already a bold statement, but going after his driver might take things to a whole new level — probably not in a way that would help the situation . . . Plus, replacing both putter and a driver could get expensive! It seems like this person really pushed your buttons. Do you think you’ll be able to play with them again, or is the damage (to both the equipment and the relationship) done?

T.E.: I think we’re done. I need a new playing partner. What are you doing Friday?

ChatGPT: I’d love to step in, but sadly, I’m better at taking about golf than actually playing it!

T.E.: And here I was assuming that you were a soulless ‘bot with zero understanding of golf or the human condition. Turns out you’re a wise, old soul. Would you like to write a weekly golf Etiquette column?

ChatGPT: A weekly etiquette column sounds like a fun idea. If you ever decide to put that column together, I’d be happy to help brainstorm topics or advice!

T.E.: [Sighs]

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https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15548586 Thu, 19 Sep 2024 11:24:01 +0000 <![CDATA[8 ways South Korean golf course etiquette differs from the U.S.]]> In the golf-obsessed nation of South Korea, golf etiquette is unlike what you'll experience in the U.S. Here are eight major differences.

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In South Korea’s capital city you can barely walk a block without running into a neon-lit driving range or a jam-packed simulator joint. Golf etiquette, too, is unlike what you’ll experience in the U.S. Below are eight big differences.

The Etiquetteist: South Korea Edition

No. 1: At the country’s high-end golf courses, caddies are de rigueur and, generally, female. Four bags are strapped along the back of a large cart, which carries all four golfers and typically stays on the cart path. Your caddie runs back and forth to retrieve whatever clubs you and your playing partners need.

No. 2: In most cases, it’s mandatory to book a foursome, and if you can only muster three players, you still pay for four.

No. 3: Caddies are often quite animated, and they genuinely cheer you on. They celebrate birdies, sometimes by placing a gold star on your scorecard, sometimes by attaching small, inexpensive charms — a butterfly, maybe, or a heart — to your driver headcover.

No. 4: Wagering is standard — sometimes only for caddie fees, but not many matches are played for pride or score alone.

No. 5: Between nines, there’s a customary 20- to 30-minute break for a light sit-down lunch and (usually) a beer. It’s not the prolonged mid-round meal you find in Japan, but it’s not a quick turn either.

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No. 6: Jumping ahead of a group is pretty much forbidden, even if they lag at the turn.

No. 7: At one ultra-high-end course, eagles are commemorated with a personalized certificate, which is presented mere minutes after putting out on 18.

No. 8: While birdies and eagles are justly celebrated, holes in one will cost you. More than post-round drinks are on the line; elaborate meals and perhaps even a night on the town are as well.

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https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15548350 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 19:24:57 +0000 <![CDATA[At a private club, should I feel obligated to have my shoes cleaned? | The Etiquetteist]]> The privilege of playing as a guest at a fancy club comes with pesky questions, including whether you should have your shoes shined.

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Dan from Maine asks:

As a guest at a high-end private course, should I feel obligated to let the clubhouse attendant clean my shoes? On the one hand, I don’t want to add to their workload. But I also don’t want to offend them by not allowing them to do their job. Personally, I’d be fine not having my shoes cleaned. But I want to make sure I’m not, um, stepping on any toes.

Dear Dan:

Just as great power comes with great responsibility, playing as a guest at a fancy private club comes with all kinds of pesky questions, such as how you should dress (psst, skip the cargo shorts!); what kind of thank-you gift you should get your host (how about a nice bottle of wine?); and whether you shoulder order the club sandwich or the crab bisque (hint: the club sandwich is the safer bet). 

Fortunately, your shoe-cleaning question shouldn’t add to your stress.

Before we get to the answer, a bit of context. Most private clubs offer an array of an extras, from club storage and comfort stations to valet parking, and, yes, shoe shines. Very often, the costs of these services are folded into monthly membership dues. At many of these same clubs, tipping for these services is forbidden. The perks are part of the swanky package, there to be enjoyed by members and their guests.

Should you feel obligated to use them?

Obligated is a funny word. The Etiquetteist wouldn’t go so far as to say that you’re required to get your shoes cleaned. But he’d recommend it. You might as well. After all, what’s the harm? The worst that could happen is that you’ll leave the club looking spiffier than you did when you arrived. In the best case scenario, you’ll be allowed to tip the attendant for their effort. Handing out a nice gratuity creates good feelings all around. 

As for feeling bad about adding to their workload, that’s ridiculous. It is, as you note, their job, and there’s nothing undignified about it.

If you still find yourself waffling over the decision, a good rule of thumb is to follow your host’s lead. To clean or not to clean? Whatever they opt for, you can comfortably do the same.

Beyond that, there’s no need to give your shoes a second thought.

To be safe, though, you probably shouldn’t change them in the parking lot.

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https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15546780 Wed, 07 Aug 2024 15:13:40 +0000 <![CDATA[My playing partner asked to ride in my cart. Could I have said no? | The Etiquetteist]]> Offering a ride on a course to a stranger is like picking up a hitchhiker on a lonely highway. You might get an oddball in the passenger seat.

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Offering a ride on a course to a stranger is like picking up a hitchhiker on a lonely highway. You might get an oddball in the passenger seat.

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Dustin from Provo, Utah, writes:

I went out as a single in a cart the other day and got paired with a walker who, after a few holes, asked if he could ride with me instead. I didn’t really want him in the cart — I like riding solo, and I’d just met the guy — but I felt put on the spot so I said yes. What’s the etiquette around that kind of request, and would it have been okay for me to just say ‘no’?

Dear Dustin:

While picking up a passenger on the course isn’t quite as risky as stopping for a hitchhiker outside a prison, it is not without its perils. There’s always the chance you’ll wind up with an unsavory character in the shotgun seat.

The first questions the Etiquetteist would ask is whether the course you were playing charged a cart fee and whether your playing partner offered to chip in. If the answers are “yes” and “no,” respectively, then your unwanted passenger was out of line. He wanted the comfort and ease of a buggy without having to pay his fair share. While that’s understandable — who doesn’t like a freebie? — it doesn’t make it right. He should have at least offered to share the costs with you.

Stinginess aside, there’s also the strangeness of the timing. As most golfers know, it is not unheard of to start a round on foot only to have a change of heart when the weather shifts or fatigue sets in or the course turns out to be a real-estate monstrosity with mile-long hikes from one hole to the next. In those instances, which tend to occur late in rounds, it is perfectly acceptable to ask for a ride and usually in everyone’s best interest that the request be granted, whether because you’re trying to stay dry or chasing daylight or struggling the keep the pace.

But that was not the type of scenario you described. Your playing partner made an intimate request, early in the round, before you’d gotten a chance to know him, and he wasn’t especially polite about it. It was an awkward ask, and — to answer your Nancy Reagan question — you would have been well within your rights to say no, in as diplomatic a manner as you could muster.

And yet, because rejecting his ask would like have only added to the awkwardness, the Etiquetteist believes that you did the right thing in obliging him. It was the least painful option and, perhaps, a good reminder: Don’t stop for hitchhikers outside prisons, and, whenever possible, walk don’t ride.

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https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15544003 Tue, 25 Jun 2024 20:48:03 +0000 <![CDATA[Should weekend hackers use AimPoint? The Etiquetteist gives his read]]> Like plumb-bobbing before it, the time-consuming green-reading technique has seeped into the amateur game. Should it be condoned?

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Like plumb-bobbing before it, the time-consuming green-reading technique has seeped into the amateur game. Should it be condoned?

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Lincoln from Oakland, Calif., writes: 

I was recently paired with two 15-handicappers who used the AimPoint method to read the greens all day. Not only did they look ridiculous and slow down play but they also failed to make a single putt outside of about two feet. In short: bad golfers with bad etiquette. In my opinion, ordinary duffers have no business using AimPoint and should be laughed (or driven) off the course if they do. Thoughts?

Dear Lincoln:

Like automotive stunts in sports-car commercials, PGA Tour broadcasts should probably come with a warning: don’t try this at home.

But they don’t, and so here we are. Like plumb-bobbing before it, AimPoint has seeped, by way of imitation, from the elite ranks into the recreational game.

Should we push back against this trend?

While the Etiquetteist sympathizes with your gripe about slow play — any on-course conduct that bogs down pace unnecessarily is best discouraged — that alone is not an argument for banning AimPoint. The method, after all, as fussy-looking as it is (what with the line-straddling, finger-pointing and eye-closing) doesn’t have to bring a round to a grinding halt, provided the person using it plays ready golf and gets as many of those time-consuming pre-shot rituals out of the way as possible while their partners are putting.

That’s a big if, of course.

An even bigger if is whether those rituals will actually lead to lower scores. Probably not, the Etiquetteist suspects. Most people can’t hang a picture straight without a level, much less feel one percent of slope with their feet. The idea that a method as subtle and involved as AimPoint stands to benefit the average duffer strikes the Etiquetteist as overly optimistic, at best.

Then again, the Etiquetteist is not a golf instructor. And even if most golfers have no more business using AimPoint than they have flying a rocket ship, that’s not a justification for banning the method, either. In the Etiquetteist’s ideal world, ordinary duffers wouldn’t bother with the method. They would get a simple read from the behind the ball, and then step up and yank their five-foot bogey try. But it’s also not the Etiquetteist’s place to dictate what people do for their pre-shot routines.

As long as they are keeping up the pace, anyone and everyone has the right to use AimPoint, no matter how unhelpful it may be. That’s the bad news. The good news is, the rest of us have the right to poke fun at them for three-putting with it.

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https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15543109 Thu, 20 Jun 2024 13:55:22 +0000 <![CDATA[13 egregious golf-etiquette violations our readers witnessed on the course]]> Bad shots happen. So does bad behavior. In a recent GOLF.com survey, readers described the worst on-course conduct they've seen.

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Bad shots happen. So does bad behavior. In a recent GOLF.com survey, readers described the worst on-course conduct they've seen.

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In golf, we learn to take the good with the bad. But sometimes the bad becomes more than we can bear. Not the wretched shots. The execrable behavior.

In a recent survey, we asked our audience to share memories of the most egregious on-course conduct they have ever witnessed. Thousands responded

Because the replies are too numerous to reprint in full, we’ve sorted them into categories and offered examples that represent the worst of the worst. Here they are, our 13 inductees into the Golf Etiquette Hall of Shame. 

CHECK OUT THE FULL RESULTS OF OUR GOLF-ETIQUETTE SURVEY HERE

1. Poor course maintenance

Failing to fix ball marks and fill divots is bad enough. But next-level negligence also seems common. One respondent described “a dude” who climbed “out of the steepest side of a bunker, leaving cavernous gouges in the side of the bunker and never even glanced at the rake.” Another told of a player “tomahawking a putter into a green in frustration, imbedding it several inches down.” And then there was the guy who, after missing a putt, “swung at his ball to knock it away but missed and took a six-inch divot on the green, right next to the hole. It was unrepairable.”

2. Reckless driving

Anyone who calls golf a good walk spoiled hasn’t paid attention to what people do in buggies. Flipping them, for instance. Four-wheeling them through bunkers. Also: Doing donuts in the fairways. Bashing into other carts. Riding roughshod over greens.  And no, one reader wrote, “I wasn’t with Trump.”

3. Fisticuffs 

Joe Louis was a golfer. So is Sugar Ray Leonard. Oscar de la Hoya is big on the game. A lot of other players seem to think they’re pugilists, based on the number of stories we heard of fights breaking out (“right there on the green,” one reader wrote), often in the aftermath of one group hitting into another.

4. Music on the course

Music is okay, most respondents said. But not when it’s played at Metallica concert-level decibels. And not when it’s pumped from multiple sources that aren’t playing the same tune. “We had three speakers in one foursome,” one respondent wrote, “all set to different hip-hop music loudly.”

5. Dress-code violations

The rules around attire are getting looser all the time. Hoodies are in. Shorts are allowed where they used to be forbidden. But some of our respondents are still trying to hold the line. One reported being miffed at the sight of someone playing in a V-neck undershirt. At least they weren’t playing in the raw. “Naked swings on a golf trip,” one respondent wrote before acknowledging that the offending golfer was, in fact, “me.”

6. Taking, um, relief

And not just behind trees or deep in the woods. In our survey, anecdotes abounded of golfers letting fly on tee boxes, cart paths, fairways and greens. One reader reported seeing a fellow player going — how to put this? — number two directly in the cup. Another told this story: “Club championship. Second hole. A member of our threesome has a raging hangover and IBS. In terrible discomfort, he grabs his golf towel and bolts for the deep fescue. Disgusting.”

7. Cheating

Foot wedges. Hand wedges. Un-granted gimmes. The list goes on. “My opponent hit five provisional balls off of a tee and didn’t declare what ball was what number and how it was marked,” one respondent wrote. “He then said he found his first ball.” And: “A player in one of my buddy trips would hit tee shots way into the woods but somehow it was always in the clear. He was never invited back to subsequent trips.” Dubious recoveries were a recurring theme. “A player suddenly ‘finding’ their ball in the rough and it’s sitting up so well it can be seen from 20 yards away aft real members of the foursome tramped all through the area where the ball now sits and not one saw the ball.”

A golfer flicking a ball into the hole with his hand.
Golf-etiquette survey results: Sounding off on slow play, cheating, dress codes
By: Josh Sens

8. Public endangerment

Bad shots happen. But no point adding injury to insult. “No fore call,” one respondent wrote. “Hit me with a drive from about 100 yards away and broke a bone in my foot.”

9. Drunk and disorderly

Nothing wrong with a cocktail or two. But “getting so wasted you fall over getting out of the cart is beyond the realm of acceptable,” one reader wrote. So is the conduct another respondent reported of a boozy golfer “driving a cart in circles on the green.”

10. Slow play

If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, no wonder slow play drives so many people batty. Most irritating of all, one respondent wrote, was the golfer with the habit of “taking 20 practice swing and hitting it two feet and then doing it again.”

11. Excessive phone use

Discreet texting? Fine. But many readers told of fellow golfers yacking like traders on the stock-market floor. “Standing on the tee talking on the phone for several minutes,” one wrote. “When called on it, the person swung with the phone tucked under their chin. Hit about five feet.”

12. Gum chewing

Tiger Woods chewed gum at Augusta National en route to winning the 2019 Masters. Other Tour pros have embraced the practice. If you’re going to copy them, though, please, keep it quiet. “Played Pinehurst No. 2 with my dad years ago and we were paired with another older gent,” one respondent wrote. “His wife was allowed to walk the course with us and was constantly snapping a piece of gum in her mouth the whole round.” And a green jacket wasn’t even at stake.

13. Temper tantrums

Snapped putters. Splintered drivers. Broken axels on carts. To hear our respondents tell it, you’d swear that the game is wildly popular among toddlers. To wit: “A person I was playing with was playing awful. On about the 5th hole he took his entire bag and threw it into a pond and stomped off the course. Thinking he had come to his senses when I saw him coming back down the fairway, I had to laugh when he walked into he pond, picked up his bag, retrieved his car keys and then drop his bag back in the water.” 

That’s the upside of bad etiquette: Now and then, it offers comic relief. 

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Of the many etiquette violations golfers commit, one transgression is more irritating than the rest, according to GOLF.com's reader survey.

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What’s the quickest way to irritate your fellow golfer?

Two words: play slowly.

And now a few more words to provide some context. In a recent GOLF.com etiquette survey, we asked our readers which on-course behaviors most bother. 

The answers ran the gamut. Of the more than 3,800 respondents, about 18% cited poor course maintenance (such as the failure to fix ball marks, rake bunkers and fill divots) as the breach that most drives them batty. Roughly 8% said that music on the course is their prime peeve. They can’t stand hearing tunes on the tee. Childish antics also got some mention: 6% of respondents said that club throwing is the conduct they dislike the most.

CHECK OUT THE COMPLETE RESULTS OF OUR GOLF-ETIQUETTE SURVEY HERE

Notably, a little more than 1 percent of the total survey pool called out dress-code violations as their chief concern. Golfers these days seem relatively unbothered by backward caps and untucked shirts.

The survey questions were multiple choice. But because that format can be limiting, we also invited readers to share stories about the worst behaviors they have witnessed. Here’s a sampling:

“Lying about scores.”

“Driving cart onto green.”

“Guys standing on a tee box in plain sight and peeing.”

“Some jerk hit into us three times with no warning or apology. The last time, I picked up the ball and tossed it in the water. He came after me with a club.”

You get the picture. (And more to come on that feedback in a future installment of The Etiquetteist.) Golfers get their backs up about a lot of things

But the most common irritant? It’s not even close. In our survey, more than 65 percent of respondents cited slow play as the worst of the bad behaviors.

Which, in turn, raises another question: What, exactly, constitutes a sluggish pace?

In our survey, we asked readers how long they thought it should it to take for a foursome to get through 18 holes.  Here, the answers ranged from “3 to 3:30 hours” to “whatever time it takes.” But there was some consensus. More than 55 percent of respondents said that 3:30 to 4 hours is a reasonable target. Anything beyond that is widely regarded as too slow.

Slow play, of course, is a complicated problem, arising from a range of factors, including tee time intervals, course setups and other management practices. But golfer behavior also matters.

Which brings us to something else: the gap between perception and reality, a disconnect that’s evident in both the professional and amateur games. Consider this: surveys of Tour pros have revealed that the world’s best players think slow play is a widespread problem. And yet few pros identify themselves as slow players. Other golfers are the problem.

Something similar was suggested in our survey, in which we also asked readers to assess their own pace of play. The answers were revealing: more than 63 percent of respondents described themselves as fast players, while just over 36 percent said they play at a moderate place. But slow play? Less than 1 percent of respondents said they were guilty of that.

In this view of the world, someone — or something — else is always causing the backup. It makes you wonder. We golfers see a lot of things. But how clearly do see ourselves?

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https://golf.com/?post_type=article&p=15540721 Wed, 15 May 2024 13:43:43 +0000 <![CDATA[Which golfer behaviors most irritate you? Sound off in our golf-etiquette survey!]]> The different between good and bad on-course behavior is often a matter of opinion. In this survey, we are seeking yours.

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The different between good and bad on-course behavior is often a matter of opinion. In this survey, we are seeking yours.

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What constitutes good — or bad — golfer behavior? The answer is often a matter of opinion, and we want yours. The questions in the survey below cover a range of etiquette topics. Answering them will take less time than it does for your (slow-playing) partner to line up a putt.

Thank you for participating! The results will be shared in future installments of The Etiquetteist.

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